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James: Today I'm going to do my best to answer your question about how to evaluate which horoscope features are more important than others. We'll examine a list of astrological
priorities I've devised for planets, houses, and the chart as a whole.
Martin: Good. That's a big problem for me James trying to figure out what influences take precedence.
James: It's a difficult subject, and not very easily answered. So be patient and don't hold my feet to the fire on this, okay?
Now, before we get to the priorities, I want to talk about an important subject that is often misunderstood retrograde planets. First, we'll discuss the three week period of Mercury retrograde that occurs twice
a year, and is happening right now. Then we'll discuss the meaning of retrograde planets in the natal horoscope.
Finally, I'm going to talk about what are called Aorbs of influence The orb of influence is the amount of degrees involved in a planetary aspect. There is a big difference between Saturn aspecting the Moon within
twenty-two degrees versus Saturn aspecting the Moon within three or four degrees.
Martin: That makes sense.
James: Last week, I asked you to notice the planetary effects relating to each day of the week. Did you do that?
Martin: Yes. I noticed on Tuesday (Mars' day) that the students in my art class were irritable and grouchy.
James: That reminds me of an astrology class that I taught on Tuesdays. It felt very stressful. There was always some sort of friction going on. The easiest and smoothest day to teach, in my
opinion, is Thursday, the day of Jupiter. Wednesday seems like a good teaching day, because it's ruled by Mercury. But I find that my nerves are too sensitive on Wednesdays. Also, people can also be a bit scattered
on Mercury’s day.
Martin: Well, I noticed that last Wednesday there were a lot of computer breakdowns and communication problems at school.
James: That's because on Wednesdays, Mercurial energies are intensified and we are now in a Mercury retrograde period.
Martin: So, that's a double whammy, no? On Thursday I stayed home and read astrology all day so I didn't notice much.
James: Perfect. Thursday is Jupiter’s day. You didn't stay home reading science or math. You read a spiritual subject. Thursdays are great for Ahigher knowledge.
Martin: Friday I went to a Christmas party. People’s spirits were pretty high.
James: Yes, well Friday is Venus' day. Good for dating and lovemaking.
Martin: So, is it important to use these daily influences?
James: I think it's a good idea to be aware of daily rulerships. I don't make too a big deal about them, but I definitely take them into account when people are in difficult dasas or bhuktis.
Martin: How?
James: If someone is in a rough period or subperiod of Venus, that person will most likely have very stressful Fridays. A person in a seriously afflicted Jupiter period, will have difficult
Thursdays.
Martin: What should the person do?
James: During an afflicted Jupiter period, take Thursdays off. During an afflicted Moon period, take Mondays off. Keep the planetary day as a day of rest. Also, try to pray,
meditate, chant mantras, fast, or take walks in the country. Anything that will relieve the strain, and anything that may appease the planet involved will help.
Martin: What if it's impossible to take the day off?
James: Just be aware that the day may be more stressful and try to do the bare minimum of hard work. When the workday is over, go straight home and jump in a hot bath or do whatever relaxes you.
Indians often fast or drink juices on a day they are trying to ameliorate. At the least, they avoid alcohol or meat eating on that day.
Martin: What about Saturdays? When I was observing the days of the week in relation to their planetary rulers, I noticed that Saturday didn't feel Saturnian at all. Saturday felt great.
James: That's an interesting point and I think you're right. Saturdays don't feel very Saturnian to me either. My best guess is that both Saturday and Sunday are affected by
cultural influences. Because our entire society stops working on weekends, both Saturday or Sunday seem to feel more easy and restful. But I can't say for sure. Cultural effects, of course, fit into the realm of
free will.
Now, have you noticed any effects of the Mercury retrograde?
Martin: Absolutely. A friend told me that right after fixing the starter in her truck, she returned home and quickly blew a head gasket, which is now going to cost her over $1,000.
James: I had a typical Mercury retrograde experience the other day. A client called for her reading and I was late, so I told her I would call her back in about five minutes. After five minutes I
called back, but her line was busy for the next thirty minutes. My blood was starting to boil. What could the lady have been thinking to talk on her phone for thirty minutes knowing full well I would be calling back
so soon? Well, when I finally got her on the phone and asked her what happened, she said, AWhat do you mean what happened? I've been sitting next to the phone waiting patiently for your call. The phone lines were
just messed up, typical Mercury retrograde.
Martin: That's funny. A couple days ago, I tried calling a friend and for some reason the phone lines wouldn't connect. I had to call her number about five or six times before the
phone rang. Then when I finally reached her and was telling her to have her phone line checked out, the phone died.
James: If I ever wanted to try and prove that astrology works, I would quantify the effects of Mercury retrograde. They are so reliable.
The most important thing to advise clients about Mercury retrogrades is not to make major decisions or major purchases in the ten days preceding and during the retrograde. I would also wait until the Mercury retrograde is over for at least a week before making important decisions and signing contracts, and so on. Also, never, never, never let a person schedule surgery right before, or on, a Mercury retrograde if there's a choice. Aside from the fact that a mistake could be made, the healing process is horrendous. Mercury retrogrades dramatically slow down the body’s ability to heal. It's very frustrating.
A friend of mine needed heart surgery a few years back, and he had to decide whether to have surgery just days before the Mercury retrograde or to wait over three weeks until it passed. If he waited, he was in danger
of dying. If he went ahead with the surgery, he was going to heal very slowly.
Martin: What did he do?
James: He went ahead with the surgery. The healing process was torturous. He kept asking his doctor why he was so weak for so long. So, advise your clients not to have surgery before a Mercury
retrograde, if they can help it.
Now I'll tell you a story that will illustrate why you shouldn't make a major decision on a retrograde. My brother bought a house during the last retrograde, and when I asked him why he couldn't wait, he said he was
sure the house was great and the price was great, and so on. I advised against it, but he was sure he found the right house.
Martin: What happened?
James: A few weeks later, after he had moved in, he discovered that he didn't like the floor plan at all. The reason he didn't realize it sooner was that on the day he decided to buy it he had just
visited three or four houses that were so terrible it made the house he bought look like a mansion. Typical Mercury retrograde_
Now, let's go into detail about retrograde planets in the natal chart. My understanding and experience of retrogrades, as well as my mentors' teachings, differs radically from the teachings of traditional textbooks
on this matter. This is an issue that you better pay very close attention to, otherwise you will wind up like the majority of astrologers Correct in Hindu astrological theory of retrogrades, but sorely lacking in predictive accuracy of them. In Jyotish, there is an intricate planetary weighting system called Shad bala,
literally Asix fold source of strength, which reveals the relative strength of every planet. Shad bala takes several hours of calculations, although a computer now does the process in a split second. In that system, a planet gets extra points (in its power weighting) for being retrograde. However, if you apply that concept literally in your horoscope analysis, you will miss the true meaning of retrogrades.
Martin: So, retrograde planets are not stronger than forward-moving planets, even though they are considered stronger in shad bala?
James: That's right. But I have to qualify my answer. A retrograde planet has a certain kind of extra strength because when a planet is retrograde, it is closer to the Earth. This causes the energy or vibrations of the retrograde planet to be an underlying prevalent force in the person's awareness and thinking process throughout his or her entire life. The statement that a retrograde planet is more powerful is misleading, however, if you expect that planet to readily and powerfully manifest its results in the outer world.
Martin: Then how does this underlying force of a retrograde planet affect a person?
James: Well, a person with a retrograde Venus, for example, spends his or her life constantly analyzing, processing, and thinking about love matters. A person with a retrograde Jupiter is
continually approaching matters from a philosophical and ideological context.
Martin: So, the planet is more powerful on an internal level?
James: Yes. The energy of the retrograde planet is an intense force within the person's consciousness and internal processes. It creates a distinct psychological reality in the person.
On the outer level, the manifest level, a retrograde planet is never strong and active. It is neutral or passive. Of course, the planet has the potential to produce powerful effects if, and this is one large if,
the person consciously decides to activate the energy of the planet. I'll give you some examples. And later on, you can test what I am teaching now. But don't do a test with only two or three charts. Use fifteen or so.
Let's say a person has an unafflicted benefic, like Venus or Jupiter, in the 5th house. You’re thinking, wow, this person is going to have wonderful children. If the ruler of the 5th house is retrograde, however, having children is not a foregone conclusion. It's not that the retrograde 5th house ruler has prevented children or harmed the childbearing process, but that the 5th house energy is latent. The 5th house energy must be consciously activated.
Martin: So, the person can have children, but doesn't have to?
James: Exactly. The person has choice.
Martin: Whereas, if the person had a forward-moving 5th house ruler along with one or two benefics in the 5th house, he or she would definitely have a child?
James: Yes. Assuming, of course, that the 5th house ruler wasn't massively afflicted. And assuming that Jupiter, the karaka (indicator) of children wasn't massively afflicted.
As another example, take the placement of a retrograde 7th house ruler in a chart where the 7th house is otherwise well-disposed. First off, the person may not feel any need to get married. Second, a person with this placement who has been married and divorced once often feels no desire at all to marry again.
Martin: Would you predict that the person will not marry a second time?
James: No. Again, it's the person's choice. The person simply doesn't feel as compelled to enter a long term committed relationship if the ruler of the 7th house is retrograde.
I believe that a retrograde planet, more than any other feature, is nature's way of leaving a certain realm of life completely up to a person's free will.
Martin: More so than a realm that has mixed astrological indications?
James: Absolutely. In fact, it's through retrogrades that I'm able to determine whether a particular feature of life that is strong in the horoscope is more likely to be a hobby
or a profession.
For example, take a horoscope that contains a powerful 3rd house, where two or three planets (mostly benefics) occupy the house, and perhaps one of those planets is in its own sign. In that case, the person will likely be involved in music, dance, or drama, or some action-oriented career like public relations.
Martin: Regardless of 10th house indications?
James: Yes, because the 3rd house is clearly dominating the chart. But, if the ruler of the 3rd house is retrograde, the 3rd house energy may manifest as a hobby during the person's first thirty years. After the age of thirty or so, the person has matured and starts using some free will rather than following every impulse and desire. Then the person consciously decides whether to make use of the artistic talent that was always apparent, but never acted upon due to the retrograde 3rd house ruler. You'll see how this works when we start analyzing horoscopes.
Martin: Can you give me examples of a retrograde planets ruling all twelve houses?
James: Yes, but this isn't something for you to memorize as much as it is a reasoning process that you consider on your own as you think about the meanings of all the houses.
If the 1st house ruler is retrograde, the person's outgoing tendencies are curtailed. The person is introspective or introverted, and has a harder time gaining recognition or fame. I actually consider a retrograde ruler of either the 1st or 10th house to be harmful, because the person is slower in actualizing his or her abilities and worldly power.
If the 2nd house ruler is retrograde, money comes in slower. If the person has literary or teaching talent, he or she probably won't want to write or teach until a later age.
Martin: After the late twenties?
James: Right. If the 3rd house ruler is retrograde, the person won't be overly ambitious. Desires will be less. There is less chance of having younger siblings, and less chance of pursuing music, dance, or drama.
Martin: But those could be hobbies in the early years?
James: Yes, but that's only if the chart indicates some propensity for the arts. If the 4th house ruler is retrograde, there is less chance of owning land or dabbling in real estate. Also, the person might have less desire to gain higher educational degrees.
Martin: Does that mean the person has problems gaining degrees?
James: Not at all. Remember that the retrograde status doesn't mean a planet is afflicted. It just indicates a latent or passive energy. If you start thinking of retrograde planets as
afflicted, you're going to make an awful lot of mistakes in your practice.
If the 5th house ruler is retrograde, the person will not feel compelled to have children. Sports, politics, spiritual techniques, and other 5th house matters would probably remain hobbies until after the age of thirty. One thing I don't like about the 5th house ruler being retrograde is that it generally weakens the poorvapunya (past life credit) connected to that planet. In other words, if the ruler of the 5th house occupies the 10th house without affliction, it means there is past life credit connected to career. But if that 5th house ruler is retrograde, the poorvapunya factor is weakened or even nonexistent.
I don't see a 6th house ruler that is retrograde having a terribly significant effect. The only thing that might be held back for a time would be a healing or medical profession. I don't know that enemies or law suits are affected at all by the 6th house ruler being retrograde.
Other than what I've already said about the 7th house ruler being retrograde, the only thing I can think to add is that it could impede becoming a merchant or business person until the late twenties or early thirties.
If the 8th house ruler is retrograde, it could slow down the ability to get money from wills, legacies, insurance companies, and one's spouse.
Martin: Would it slow a person down from becoming an astrologer?
James: It could. Before the late twenties, the person might consider astrology or psychic practice as merely a hobby. My 8th house ruler is retrograde, and I knew nothing about astrology until my late twenties.
A retrograde 9th house ruler could lessen a person's desire for travel. The person might also consider religion and philosophy a hobby rather than a profession.
If the 10th house ruler is retrograde, the person is slower to choose a career and slower to actualize a career. This is one of my least favorite retrograde placements.
If the 11th house ruler is retrograde, there is less likelihood of having an older sibling. Friends and groups are not a high priority, and it may take a longer than usual for the person to realize his or her major goals and ambitions.
Like the placement of a 6th house ruler being retrograde, I can't think of any significant effect of a retrograde 12th house ruler. Maybe the person has less sexual desire and less desire to visit remote foreign countries.
Martin: What about less desire to pursue enlightenment?
James: Maybe. I'm not positive. At any rate, I trust that you get the concept that retrograde planets don't cause harm and they aren't afflicted. But they do slow things down and
make for an introverted, rather than extroverted, energy.
Martin: What about retrograde planets in houses, James? I have trouble understanding how they work.
James: Let's talk about them. Since a retrograde planet functions in a more latent or introspective way, it can either help or hurt the house it occupies depending on its essential benefic or malefic nature. If a planet is benefic by nature, it almost always strengthens or benefits the house it occupies, correct?
Martin: Correct.
James: And if a planet is retrograde, it is a more latent, or introspective, influence. In other words, it is less action-oriented. So, what would you prefer to have in your chart, retrograde
Jupiter or Venus in the 10th house, or forward-moving Jupiter or Venus in the 10th house?
Martin: Forward-moving.
James: Of course. Career luck is going to be wonderful with either Venus or Jupiter in the 10th house, but if Jupiter or Venus are retrograde they're not going to give their full effects to the career. Follow?
Martin: Yes.
James: These are already good placements, don't get me wrong. But they would be even better if they were in forward motion.
Martin: But, if retrograde Venus is in the 10th house, do you still predict that the person may have an artistic career?
James: Absolutely. The person has powerful Venusian energy in the career house, even though Venus would be stronger or more active if it were forward-moving. If Mercury is retrograde in the 10th house, I would expect the person to have a Mercurial career (writing, teaching, lecturing, and so on). So, even though a retrograde planet is more intense on a psychological or internal level, you can't ignore the fact that whatever house it occupies will be affected by its energy, its vibrations.
Martin: Then it's only the houses that the retrograde planet rules that are held back in the person's early years? Those are the realms that may become hobbies instead of professions?
James: Yes, only the houses that are ruled by a retrograde planet are extremely dependent on the person=s desire, the person’s free will.
Now let's consider a malefic planet that is retrograde in a house. If Mars or Saturn occupying the 4th house causes serious suffering to the mother, and retrograde planets are more latent and introspective, and less action-oriented, would you rather have these malefics in the 4th house retrograde or forward-moving?
Martin: Retrograde.
James: Of course. Will retrograde Mars or Saturn in the 4th house cause problems to the person's mother? You bet your life they will. But they will not be nearly as severe as they would if the planet was forward-moving.
Martin: So, what do tell a person with retrograde Saturn in, say, the 7th house?
James: I tell that person everything I would tell someone with forward-moving Saturn in the 7th, but I would lessen the intensity of my words because the person's love problems would not
be as great. I tell the person he or she is paying back love debts from past lives and will have difficulties in marriage, will likely be divorced, will have to give more than receive in love matters, and will feel
restricted and oppressed in marriage. But I also say that the suffering will not as intense as it could be and that the karma being paid back may not last an entire lifetime. The person clearly has a chance of
creating a good marriage, after paying back karmic love debts, assuming there are no other 7th house or Venus afflictions.
Martin: On a scale of one to ten, ten being worst, how would you rate forward-moving Saturn in the 7th and retrograde Saturn in the 7th in terms of negative effects?
James: I would rate forward-moving Saturn in the 7th house as a ten and retrograde Saturn in the 7th house as a seven. But remember C I'm talking about these influences in isolation. A person could have Saturn in the 7th
house, aspected by benefic Jupiter or Venus. This would alter matters a lot.
Martin: The 7th house becomes a mixture of good and bad?
James: Yes. I would most likely still predict divorce, because malefics in the 7th house cause major problems, no matter how well-disposed. But, I would also predict a happy marriage, eventually.
Martin: In other words, the karmic love problems wouldn’t last a whole lifetime. James, what about Mars in the 7th house? How would you rate those positions, in their retrograde and forward motion?
James: Mars in the 7th is definitely not a good placement for marriage, but it's less severe than Saturn in the 7th. Of course, either Mars or Saturn in the 7th indicate divorce, but the person with Mars in the marriage house doesn't suffer so bad and for so long. A person with Saturn in the 7th is treated very unfairly and disrespectfully, and because Saturn gives staying power, the person may take the abuse for years and years.
A person with Mars in the 7th typically fights and argues for a few years and then gets a divorce. But I'd certainly prefer to have a retrograde Mars in the 7th as opposed to forward-moving Mars. I'd rate the level of suffering about a seven for forward-moving Mars in the 7th, and a five or six for retrograde Mars. If the person has retrograde Mars in the 7th,
there's a good chance of eventually having a decent marriage. And if that retrograde Mars is well-aspected by some benefic, other than Moon or Venus, the person will almost certainly have a happy marriage,
eventually.
Martin: Why are Moon and Venus exceptions?
James: Because if Mars is aspected by the Moon, it means that Mars is opposite the Moon, and that's like having Mars in the 7thhouse.
Martin: Chandra lagna (discussed in Class One).
James: That's right. Moon ascendant.
Martin: And if Venus aspects Mars, then Venus gets harmed by the aspect that Mars throws onto it.
James: Right. And Venus is the planet of love. So we don't want that.
Martin: James, what about retrograde malefics in upachaya houses (3rd, 6th, 10th, and 11th), where malefics are welcomed?
James: Malefics in upachaya houses are excellent. This is probably a judgement call, but I would prefer a retrograde malefic to occupy the 3rd or 11th house rather than a forward-moving malefic.
Martin: Why?
James: Remember when I said that although malefics are welcomed in the upachaya houses, they cause some harm there as well?
Martin: You said malefics hurt siblings if they occupy the 3rd or the 11th (11th being the eldest sibling).
James: That's right. Well, if a malefic planet is retrograde in the 3rd or the 11th, then it's harmful nature is subdued and siblings are not hurt at
all. Or, if there is damage to siblings, it is extremely slight. As for the 10th house, I would absolutely prefer a retrograde Saturn in the 10th house because so many people with forward-moving Saturn in the 10th use the Saturnian energy to simply hold themselves back.
Martin: That wouldn't happen with a retrograde Saturn in the 10th?
James: No. Retrograde planets are always a latent, less action-oriented influence. The vast majority of people have trouble with forward-moving Saturn no matter where it exists in the horoscope.
Retrograde Saturn is a blessing for most people.
Martin: Except that it holds back the power of the two houses that it rules.
James: That's true. You can't have everything, can you?
Martin: What about retrograde malefics aspecting other planets and houses?
James: An aspect that a retrograde malefic throws onto another house causes the exact same damage as a forward-moving malefic that throws its aspect. As far as aspects that a retrograde planet throws onto other planets,
it causes the same damage as a forward-moving planet, but there are certain exceptions, which are interesting. When you see a retrograde planet aspecting another planet, you need to look at whether the aspect is
applying or separating because this will often have a big effect.
Martin: What do you mean?
James: Say that there is a conjunction involving retrograde Mars and forward-moving Venus, that occurs within a three degree orb. If Mars is retrograding away from Venus, then the aspect is Aseparating, and Venus is not as badly harmed as it would be if the two planets were moving toward one another. For example, if Mars occupies five degrees of Gemini and is moving backwards, Venus would be better off in eight degrees of Gemini (i.e. past Mars) rather than, say, two degrees of Sagittarius (i.e. moving toward Mars).
If Venus occupies two degrees of Gemini, while retrograde Mars occupies five degrees of Gemini, then Mars is backing up toward Venus and Venus is approaching Mars, and the aspect is applying which is greatly
intensified for good or bad.
Martin: How could it ever be good?
James: Well, in this Venus-Mars example, the aspect is bad for Venus but wonderful for Mars. Mars is strengthened tremendously by being close to benefic Venus. So, an applying aspect here gives
Mars even greater benefit.
I see cases all the time where a planet that is aspected by a retrograde malefic is not nearly as harmed as expected because the aspect it receives is separating. The places where it happens are almost exclusively
with conjunctions and oppositions. I've seen many cases where retrograde Mars or retrograde Saturn is opposite Venus, within about four or five degrees, and the person doesn't have the typical damaged love life that
these aspects indicate. Whenever this happens, it’s always because the aspect is separating, rather than applying.
Martin: But this doesn’t happen when Mars is throwing its 4th or 8th house aspects, or when Saturn is throwing its 3rd and 10th house aspects? (For details on planetary aspects, see Appendix A.)
James: I haven’t noticed it have such a big impact there, but I can tell you that when it comes to conjunctions and oppositions, the effects are quite noticeable. Let me give you an example of a
separating opposition aspect. If Jupiter occupies ten degrees of Taurus, and retrograde Saturn occupies fourteen degrees of Scorpio, then Saturn is backing up towardsJupiter.
Martin: Then, it’s applying.
James: Yes, and therefore the aspect hurts Jupiter intensely and strengthens Saturn intensely (because Saturn receives the strong aspect from benefic Jupiter). If, however, Jupiter occupies twenty degrees of Taurus, while retrograde Saturn occupies fifteen degrees of Scorpio, then the aspect is separating and you may be surprised at how ineffectual the aspect is. So, try to remember this issue when you analyze charts with retrograde planets.
Another point I want to make about retrograde planets is something I learned from my first astrology teacher. A retrograde planet generally represents an energy that a person may have misused in a past lifetime. I'm
not talking about abusing the energy in a way that was harmful or devastating to other people, because if that happened the planet would likely show up this lifetime in an extremely weak or afflicted condition. I'm
talking about using a planetary energy in an imbalanced way.
Martin: Imbalanced?
James: Imbalanced, exaggerated, ignored. The person somehow misused the planetary energy, and the result is that in the current life he or she is constantly compelled to focus on
the significations of that planet in a serious, rather consuming way.
Martin: Which occurs naturally because retrograde planets are closer to the Earth than other planets.
James: Yes. And the process of how this all-consuming focus comes about is interesting. A retrograde planet signifies a latent influence, an influence that is almost completely overlooked or neglected in the beginning stage of life. Later on, it comes to the forefront and stays there until the person dies. I'll give you two examples.
If Venus is retrograde at birth, then the child is simply unaware of the concept of romantic love in the earliest years. The child soon learns about parents, siblings, intellectual matters, homes, money, and so on.
After encountering many different areas of existence, the child suddenly finds out about romantic love and because it has taken so long to discover that realm, because Venusian matters are so latent, it is somewhat
shocking for the child. The person then spends the rest of his or her life making up for the initial loss. Then everything in life, all experiences really, are seen through the context of how they relate to, or how they affect, romantic love.
If Jupiter is retrograde, the child learns the concepts of religion, philosophy, and morals last. Because these matters were originally missing, it's shocking when they are finally noticed and the person spends the
rest of his or her life filtering everything though philosophical eyes. All experiences are related to the meaning of life, religion, ethics, and so on. I've never done statistical research on retrograde planets,
but I can't tell you how common it is for spiritual seekers to have a retrograde Jupiter.
Martin: When does this happen to a child?
James: Very early. Maybe in the first two to four years. This is not so much a rational process as an organic or instinctive one. If it was rational, a person probably wouldn’t decide to spend an
entire life focusing psychologically so heavily on one realm.
Also, I believe it is significant when a person runs the dasa of a retrograde planet later in life, say after the age of thirty-five or forty. Then, the person has the maturity to focus on the energy of that planet which was imbalanced in past lives and finally learn to get it straight. And when you are analyzing a person's dasas,
I think it's important to look at them as a whole. In other words, take notice of the order of the realms of life that are going to be in focus, particularly after the age of thirty.
Martin: Why thirty?
James: Well, that's the age when people generally become adults, because of the ASaturn return. The Saturn return, as far as I know, is a Western astrological concept. It takes Saturn between
twenty-nine and thirty-one-and-a-half years to transit all twelve houses. Once those houses are transited, you've learned at least some degree of all the possible lessons in life. That's when people start using some
free will, rather than following every impulse and desire that happens to arise.
In the cases of spiritual disciples, I often see two or three dasas in a row that entail spiritual activities during adulthood. I think that's significant and I think it should be told to the client. In cases where the horoscope indicates a person has seriously misused, for example, love activities in past lifetimes, I often notice two or three dasas in a row that relate to love matters. This is very significant, because three dasas in a row takes up twenty-three years, if the periods are short (i.e. Sun, Moon and Mars), and fifty-two years if they are long (i.e. Jupiter, Saturn, and Mercury).
Martin: That gives the person a long time to learn the proper use of a particular realm.
James: Or, to suffer a long time while paying back the bad karma caused in past lives.
Martin: Is there a way to know which is happening, based on the horoscope?
James: Well, anything related to past lives is speculative. Since we have no provable experience of past lives, I'm a bit wary of making very definitive statements about those matters. But, I do believe that if a person has an extremely afflicted planet, he or she probably abused that realm of life in past lives.
Martin: Obviously.
James: No, not obviously. You and I are not experiencing our clients' past lives, we're looking at symbols on a piece of paper, so we don't know anything for sure. For all we know, the person may
have a very afflicted 2nd house causing terrible money karma in this life simply because he or she has always had many Aeasy money lifetimes and now wants to find out what it's like to be poor. When we predict details of someone's life, the person's life (in time) bears out whether we are right or wrong. The reasons for what happens to a person is simply our belief. No matter what our understanding of karma is, and how it works, it's pure speculation on our part.
With that in mind, I believe that if a person has badly misused, say, career energy in some past lifetime and has not yet paid back that debt, he or she will pay the price in the current life. One way the person
could pay back a lot of career debt would be to run through several rough dasas connected to the career house during adulthood. Maybe the person runs the dasa of a planet that is fallen in the 10th house. That causes career problems for a good ten or twenty years, depending on the period. If that period is followed by a dasa of the ruler of the 10th house, and that ruler is tightly conjunct with, say, the malefic Sun or the ruler of the 12th house, that's good for another ten or twenty difficult years within career, depending on the dasa involved.
If you take the time to notice the realms activated by the dasas during the person's adult life, you'll sometimes, not always but sometimes, notice an important theme running through the person's life.
Martin: So I can look at the dasas not as separate, isolated periods, but as portions of a whole life, which may have a thread running through it?
James: Yes. Sometimes, you'll see the thread or the theme as plain as day. I definitely advise paying attention to this point.
Martin: Among the ten thousand other things I'm busy paying attention to?
James: See how simple it is?
Now, let's talk about the question you asked last week regarding priorities. You asked how one goes about prioritizing the features that make a planet strong and powerful, or weak and afflicted. As I mentioned then,
this is something that takes years of practical experience with horoscopes and I have serious doubts that it can be learned quickly.
Martin: What I'm looking for is some kind of pecking order. Like, in poker a royal straight flush beats everything. A flush beats a full house. A full house beats three of a kind. Can you do that
with the astrological factors?
James: The problem is that Jyotish is filled with nuances and subtleties, upon more nuances and subtleties. Any prioritization system I give you has to be taken with great caution because there are always going to be mitigating aspects and extenuating circumstances. I'll try to help you, but don't take what I say as gospel. Very little of Jyotish should be taken as gospel anyway, because many paths can lead to the same goal. Many astrologers get excellent results using completely different systems or even using different weighting methods within the same system.
Martin: Is that why you told me to read so many books by other authors even though they don't always agree with you?
James: Yes. If you can't be open minded with Jyotish, you're in the wrong field. I respect anyone who achieves predictive accuracy in astrology, no matter what approach or techniques the
person uses. What I don't respect is someone who masquerades psychic ability for astrological technique. That happens a lot and it gets my goat because it helps to muddy our field, which is muddy enough already.
So make sure you approach what I say as a general guide and don't be surprised if the list of items I cover is incomplete. Better yet, expect the list to be incomplete and don't be surprised if, or when, other astrologers disagree with my sense of priorities.
Martin: That's a fair disclaimer, James.
James: It's an emphatic disclaimer. In my opinion, you've asked an almost impossible question. And while we're on the subject of disclaimers, let me reiterate an important one that definitely
applies now. Nothing in astrology is foolproof. I've seen every single astrological technique, fundamental or otherwise, fail at least a few times. And every single astrologer I've ever met, or heard about, has made
wrong predictions. Every one. So, if I mention some feature that makes a planet magnificently powerful and you've seen a few horoscopes that contradict that fact, don't assume that what I've said is wrong. Always test many horoscopes before drawing conclusions.
Martin: Wait a minute, James. You're saying that no matter how long I study, or practice, I'm always going to be making mistakes. If that's true, how can I ever feel confident enough to charge
money and practice professionally?
James: First of all, my guess is that the best astrologers have around a seventy percent accuracy rate, give or take ten percent. Second, if any client expects you to be one hundred percent accurate and accepts everything you say as gospel truth, that person needs some lessons in practicality. We're talking about divination, and divination is not a Aclosed science. We have to leave room for free will, prayer, the grace of God, and human error. I suggest that you constantly strive for predictive perfection, but use some common sense about what is and what isn't your responsibility as an astrologer. And remember that human error occurs in all humans, not just the ignorant or unlucky ones.
Martin: Isn't it my responsibility to be accurate in my chart analysis?
James: Yes, but if you consider it your responsibility to be accurate all the time, you better forget about ever practicing professionally. Or you can learn to massively rationalize, and ignore reality, which is what some astrologers do.
Martin: What do you mean?
James: Some astrologers believe not only that astrology can predict everything perfectly, but that their abilities with astrology is perfect.
Martin: That's ridiculous, isn't it?
James: Of course it is.
Martin: So, what is your definition of an astrologer's responsibility?
James: I see the practice of astrology as a probabilities, or percentage, game. I definitely don't consider it a hard science. Therefore, if I see a bunch of horoscopes where Saturn occupies the 5th house and the overall majority of those people are childless, or have very few children, or only had children in their older years, then I will tell any client who has that same placement that he or she will probably have similar results.
Martin: Unless there are other astrological features contradicting that fact?
James: Of course. But, contrary to what many clients and astrology students think, I am not responsible for knowing everything about a person's life or that person's future. I'm only responsible
for knowing the implications, the likelihoods, and the probabilities of much (definitely not all) of the person's life.
Martin: What if you come across some astrological feature that you've never seen?
James: If I see one or two dramatically unfamiliar features in a horoscope, I don't worry about it. I simply give the client my opinion about its meaning while clearly explaining that because that aspect is new to me, I can't be sure of what it will produce. Having one or two of these situations in a chart reading is not a problem because there is so much more to analyze and discuss.
Martin: But what if the unfamiliar aspect seems really important?
James: If the aspect seems incredibly significant and its meaning eludes me, I may tell the person to get other opinions. I even have a list of astrologers I use as referrals for clients who come
to me for astrological work outside my expertise (investment astrology, kidnapping cases, law suits, and so on). If the unclear feature seems like it could be dangerous or life threatening, which sometimes happens,
I will advise the person to see a good psychic, if they can find one. But I never take the position that I have to know everything. Each astrologer has his or her own specialty or expertise, and each
astrologer has his or her own blind spots. I recognize this and am not uncomfortable saying the words I don't know.
Now, a much bigger problem occurs when I see a horoscope which as a whole is unclear. That's a serious problem.
Martin: What do you do?
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